Octo-Mom is Not a Mother but a Depraved Baby Collector
I have held my peace about this 'woman' long enough.
As someone who struggled with infertility treatment for 12 years and is still struggling with and about to have more surgery for 42 years of dealing with severe PCOS and what it has done to my body and spirit... all I can say is this woman is SICK.
I have twins. I had them via treatment. I started with quads and told the doctors if it didn't self-reduce I wanted reduction done because I felt it was selfish to the children I was carrying to put them through that. I had extensive psychological counseling during that 12 year journey. Guess what? I have two wonderful kids, on the honor roll, who are responsible, empathic and healthy.
This mother should be cited for abuse and have her LITTER of innocent children taken from her and adopted to infertile couples who can afford & desperately want children.
Residents of California... you want to pay for these kids? While I am on disability: I PAY FOR MY KIDS - not the State or the Government. (In fact my disability company PENALIZED me for having children.) Their father gives them a place to live, expenses, utilities. And the rest - I PAY FOR. I take money away from myself for them. That's what parents do. They don't ASSUME they can depend on the government or others to help them out with their depraved and selfish behavior.
I had NO ONE help me when my kids were infants except their father and one friend. I would not accept help from one of my parents ( who I knew by then to be pathological and unhealthy for myself and my children - as well as having numerous strings, guilt and verbal/ emotional abuse attached). I had post-partum depression and I got help for it. I bled out for 4 months continuously after delivery due to my PCOS and I finally got proper help for that too. I separated from their father. I didn't sleep for 3-4 days at a time. Because I WANTED my children and I WAS THEIR MOTHER and that was my sacred obligation to my children - to take care of them - not be the keeper of some "baby zoo."
Lady, someone needs to put you in a cage and sew your ****** shut. And then your mouth. From one multiples mom to another: you disgust me. There is no way a REAL MOTHER would put her children out for display and hope to profit. NO WAY. You are irresponsible, self-involved and you make me (another multiples mom and infertility survivor) sick.
Taxpayers Cover Octo-Mom's costs
Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.
Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.
"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."
On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.
She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.
Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.
"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.
In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.
Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.
Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.
In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.
The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.
State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.
Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.
Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.
Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.
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THIS SICKO'S WEBSITE ASKING FOR DONATIONS!!!!!!!
(As bad as things got with my health after I gave birth - I NEVER asked for donations ever, from anyone. This and her TV interviews prove how sick & morally insane this woman is!)
As someone who struggled with infertility treatment for 12 years and is still struggling with and about to have more surgery for 42 years of dealing with severe PCOS and what it has done to my body and spirit... all I can say is this woman is SICK.
I have twins. I had them via treatment. I started with quads and told the doctors if it didn't self-reduce I wanted reduction done because I felt it was selfish to the children I was carrying to put them through that. I had extensive psychological counseling during that 12 year journey. Guess what? I have two wonderful kids, on the honor roll, who are responsible, empathic and healthy.
This mother should be cited for abuse and have her LITTER of innocent children taken from her and adopted to infertile couples who can afford & desperately want children.
Residents of California... you want to pay for these kids? While I am on disability: I PAY FOR MY KIDS - not the State or the Government. (In fact my disability company PENALIZED me for having children.) Their father gives them a place to live, expenses, utilities. And the rest - I PAY FOR. I take money away from myself for them. That's what parents do. They don't ASSUME they can depend on the government or others to help them out with their depraved and selfish behavior.
I had NO ONE help me when my kids were infants except their father and one friend. I would not accept help from one of my parents ( who I knew by then to be pathological and unhealthy for myself and my children - as well as having numerous strings, guilt and verbal/ emotional abuse attached). I had post-partum depression and I got help for it. I bled out for 4 months continuously after delivery due to my PCOS and I finally got proper help for that too. I separated from their father. I didn't sleep for 3-4 days at a time. Because I WANTED my children and I WAS THEIR MOTHER and that was my sacred obligation to my children - to take care of them - not be the keeper of some "baby zoo."
Lady, someone needs to put you in a cage and sew your ****** shut. And then your mouth. From one multiples mom to another: you disgust me. There is no way a REAL MOTHER would put her children out for display and hope to profit. NO WAY. You are irresponsible, self-involved and you make me (another multiples mom and infertility survivor) sick.
Taxpayers Cover Octo-Mom's costs
A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month,
she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters.The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.
Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.
Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.
"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."
On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.
"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"
She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.
"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."
Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.
"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.
In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.
Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.
Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.
In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.
The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Eight times that equals $1.3 million.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.
State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.
Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.
Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.
Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.
In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.
SOURCE
THIS SICKO'S WEBSITE ASKING FOR DONATIONS!!!!!!!
(As bad as things got with my health after I gave birth - I NEVER asked for donations ever, from anyone. This and her TV interviews prove how sick & morally insane this woman is!)
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